Germany 3 - Brazil 2, and still Atze doesn't play.
Germany 3 - Brazil 2, and still Atze doesn't play.
One of these days ...
V f B e i n L e b e n l a n g
"Kein Mensch hat seinen Freunden so viel Gutes erwiesen und seinen Feinden so viel Böses angetan, dass ich, Sulla, ihn nicht noch übertroffen hätte."
Lucius Cornelius Sulla (138-78 v.Chr.) Dictator von Rom
"Sonst ein gar stiller Mann, doch wenn er angreift, wie der böse Teufel..."
über König Rudolf I. von Habsburg aus Grillparzer - König Ottokars Glück und Ende
Zitat von simsahas
@Radyserb
please explain this rule:
-No capture of asian Ottoman cities (including Constantinople)! (But it's allowed to beat osman units there to get veteran units)
Please tell explicit which cities mustn´t be captured and why?
Wenn du tot bist, dann weißt du nicht, dass du tot bist, es ist nur schwer für die anderen. Genau so ist es, wenn du blöd bist.
Welche Städte steht doch auch in der Eingangspost.
Warum? Damit der Russe nicht billig an viele neue Städte kommt, um seine military power schnell zu erweitern, eine Expansion soweit in das Osmanische Reich ist ist außerdem unrealistisch für diese Zeit. Du kannst aber Einheiten vernichten (Simulation der osmanisch-russischen Kriege), um veterane Einheiten zu bekommen.
Geändert von Radyserb (21. August 2011 um 16:58 Uhr)
Wenn es so klar wäre, würde ich nicht fragen...
Türkey ist klar, aber was ist mit dem Nahen Osten?
Ab Suez Westlich ist Afrika, das darf also wieder. Nikosia ist Europa, darf also auch.
Es geht um die Städte
Batum, Mosul, Aleppo, jerusalem, Beirut, Acre, Elat und Gaza.
Welche davon dürfen erobert werden?
Wenn du tot bist, dann weißt du nicht, dass du tot bist, es ist nur schwer für die anderen. Genau so ist es, wenn du blöd bist.
Steht, wie geschrieben, im Eingangspost: Alle Städte innerhalb der roten Umrandung liegen in Asien und sind daher tabu...
No, that was my idea, in reality Britain did not need to conquer Suez to get troops/supplies from India, Britain didn't conquered it too. In this time the Suez-Canal didn't exist. You can get send your supplies through the Ottoman territory without to conquer any city, or you capture Egypt...
Geändert von Radyserb (12. August 2011 um 15:19 Uhr)
I'm no expert, but is this map inaccurate? Or did things change significantly to 1803? Because to me, this map is showing that Egypt was nominally Ottoman controlled as well as Suez.
http://www.euratlas.net/history/euro...Southeast.html
Considering that in this scenario, neither Suez nor Port Said connect the Red Sea to the Mediterranean, I do not understand why you adopted this rule? Surely the fact that I have only one city representing the entirety of the Empire compensates for the fact that a Suez to Port Said route would be quicker than the Red Sea to Alexandria?
What is your exact problem?
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V f B e i n L e b e n l a n g
"Kein Mensch hat seinen Freunden so viel Gutes erwiesen und seinen Feinden so viel Böses angetan, dass ich, Sulla, ihn nicht noch übertroffen hätte."
Lucius Cornelius Sulla (138-78 v.Chr.) Dictator von Rom
"Sonst ein gar stiller Mann, doch wenn er angreift, wie der böse Teufel..."
über König Rudolf I. von Habsburg aus Grillparzer - König Ottokars Glück und Ende
Constanta captured
@England: please make sure that you don´t block the seaway to/from St. Petersburg again
Wenn du tot bist, dann weißt du nicht, dass du tot bist, es ist nur schwer für die anderen. Genau so ist es, wenn du blöd bist.
My exact problem is this: I could understand not being allowed to conquer Suez or Port Said if Egypt were some sovereign nation, while Port Said and Suez were Ottoman holdings, but unless I am mistaken--which I may very well be--it would appear that both Egypt and Suez/Port Said are Ottoman holdings, in which case this rule serves no practical function other than making things unnecessarily difficult.
If, in real life, Britain were to decide it necessary to invade Ottoman territory to more easily transfer troops and supplies from their empire, I cannot imagine that they would say, "Right then, let's ignore the most direct route, and take Cairo instead--better sight seeing, after all!"
I'm just asking for a clarification behind your reasoning. If both were Ottoman territory, it doesn't make sense to me. (Again, I'm not sure that both were at this point in time).
I. The whole territory was ottoman in this time. The problem is, that Civ2 doesn't allow a 8th human civilization, that would be the Ottomans. Would you try to conquer Egypt in this case too? I don't think so.
II. India played during the Napoleonic Wars no military role. Half of contemporary India still wasn't british in this thime and India was bound by own conflicts (not until 1803 Delhi was conquered). Not representable in a scenario focussed on Europe. India has just importance for trade - and for your survive, if all your other cities are fallen in Europe. In former versions (i don't know if it's still so) there was an event, that Britain gives money to the others. Without Britain this event would be senseless. Otherwise you should ask the original scenario designer, why he created British India...
III. Financially it was more profitable to circumnavigate Cape of good hope than to unload the goods in Suez, transport through Ottoman territory and reload it in Port Said. This is not representable in Civ2 too without House Rules.
IV. Ottoman Empire should be human, there is no 8th civilization possible, therefore it should be just allowed to conquer some secondary territories. There is the battle for military power in this scenario (for Russia, Prussia and Austria) and every city means 300 points. You see the problem with the Ottoman Empire?Therefore it's forbidden for Russia and Austria to conquer the whole area. But it would be unfair for Russia, if it would be allowed for the others. Egypt is allowed, because Napoleon tryed in 1796 to invade Egypt and failed, now he can accomplish this mission, if no other anticipate him
Geändert von Radyserb (16. August 2011 um 04:29 Uhr)
And now rady to play the huge turn.
England wants war - England gets war!
Near Sardinia one Two Decker sunk, near Oban one Merchantman sunk, please disband Merchant there.
In South England 1 Marine, 1 Line Infantery, 2 Dragoon Guards, 3 Horse Art., 1 Foot Art., 1 Reserve Art. destroyed with loss of one Chasseur, London sieged by lots of troops........ but it's still not too late for peace, my army could immediately return to France, all I want is peace and free trade
Tangiers has became spanish after a little siege.
We ask England to accept Bonaparte's peace. It's better for the world and for the free trade to keep peace among the nations.
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