Yes, it may be necessary then, but it's no big deal since it isn't a freebie but a glitch override.Zitat von Jerec
Maybe tech trading is necessary.
Yes, it may be necessary then, but it's no big deal since it isn't a freebie but a glitch override.Maybe tech trading is necessary.
The Imagawa wish to claim the city of Ise as their personal conquest; the ronin there need a master.
Geändert von Jerec (11. Juni 2011 um 05:33 Uhr)
That was what I was thinking when I suggested tech trading be allowed. The first player to kill that type of unit will be the only one who can get the tech and they can either trade or sell it if it suits them. Giving it to allies or your enemies enemy may be a good tacticI will change that house rule!
BTW there is a Test of Time version of SJ in the offing. I have included a couple of Gareth Birch's new units (Geisha/Spies/Ships/Canon etc...). I probably shouldn't have added them, I forgot he asked me to keep them under wraps (bad McMonkey) but there is a whole new unit set off all unit types and they are stunning. In a Test of Time version it will be possible to fix the tech bug with the much larger events file!
Hopefully we can keep it fast.
About techs. "It does happen that you may not be able to acquire the 'defeat' technology from defeating a tier one technology. This is a glitch in MGE and I've tried to use the events space to my best to fix it. For example, if you kill a Yari Ashigaru I but don't get the Yari Ashigaru I defeat tech, somebody else has killed a Yari Ashigaru I from that clan before you. The only way you can get it is if you are the first to kill a yari ashigaru I from a particular clan. Otherwise you don't." This is quoted from DarthVeda's website. Maybe tech trading is necessary.
And exactly that was what I said that NOT making said techs exchangable would make the game more interesting by preventing or strongly discouraging people from retreating into a diplomatic shell while everyone else is duking it out.
Honestly this whole thing could just as easily be solved by the person who normally would have gotten that tech cheating it for themselves since opening the game as .sav won't matter after turn 13 as the last turn-triggered event occurs then.
I am still opposed to tech trading.
Oh right. I misunderstood you. If thats the case then trading techs is still forbidden but if you kill the relevant unit you can cheat the relevant tech!
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Old japanese "Raubritter"
mit oder ohne Kriegserklärung, das war eine Sneakattack
Houseroule: no sneakattack
alles weitere später, der Garten ruft
Geändert von Civilionaut (26. April 2008 um 20:10 Uhr)
Tut mir leid für dich, Civi - aber dieses Scen ist auf Krieg ausgelegt. Hier gibt es die Houseroule "no sneakattack" nicht.
No sneakattack war vielleicht bei LBE eine Houserule, hier aber ist Krieg angesagt.
Nichts neues.
V f B e i n L e b e n l a n g
"Kein Mensch hat seinen Freunden so viel Gutes erwiesen und seinen Feinden so viel Böses angetan, dass ich, Sulla, ihn nicht noch übertroffen hätte."
Lucius Cornelius Sulla (138-78 v.Chr.) Dictator von Rom
"Sonst ein gar stiller Mann, doch wenn er angreift, wie der böse Teufel..."
über König Rudolf I. von Habsburg aus Grillparzer - König Ottokars Glück und Ende
Sorry about that Civi. Nothing personal, you just happened to be in my way
The clue to the theme of this game is in its title: The Age of the country at War. I don't think there is much scope for trade or development, just conquest
a) bei mir ist das immer eine houserule, insbesondere wenn jemand noch garnicht am Zug war
b) deshalb sind die Hojo auch schon im Krieg
a) Persoenliche Houserules? Aehm, okay.a) bei mir ist das immer eine houserule, insbesondere wenn jemand noch garnicht am Zug war
b) deshalb sind die Hojo auch schon im Krieg
b) Darf ich das so verstehen, dass du mich angegriffen hast? Nicht, das ich was dagegen habe, aber sowas nicht anzukuendigen gehoert nicht gerade zum guten Ton.
Btw in a certain way, I sympathize with Civilonaut.
One of the major problems of this scenario is that the Daimyo unit is so powerful that it can only be countered by another Daimyo early on in the game.
This means that "distributed" civs like the Takeda or Imagawa can kiss those cities which are not close to their own Daimyo goodbye, and that whoever loses his Daimyo in an early Daimyo vs Daimyo match can pretty much just quit the game, since nothing will stop the prevailing Daimyo, who should also be rendered a veteran by the clash, from handily overrunning anything that the defeated player could throw at him.
Maybe a "peace period" to let people build up enough to be somewhat able to resist a Daimyo rush would be a good idea, but I guess we've already started.
Sorry Jerec.
Chikugo erobert.
That was more predictable than the black guy getting knocked off first in a 90s teenie slasher movie.
So, do we want to continue with the cheap shots or do we instate some sort of grace period?
I could post my turn in which I effortlessly capture Sagami, but let's just hear what you people think before I do that.
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